1000 PvM Boxes

[easy mate 54]

So I opened 1k PvM Boxes, I was buying these boxes for 25m each and also earning them myself.

the total loot was around 15b meaning a 10b loss. 

Which shows that the worth of each box is around 15m (which happens to be the alch value) I dunno who decided that 50m should be the price for these boxes but yeh, don't be buying them for that if you wanna make money.

[Boats 254]

gravity in shambles @Gravity

[nelly 159]

nicely done

 

[Farquaad 1]

Nice!

[Will 53]

Love to see it, this is awesome!

[DevilSkag 75]

Awesome numbers, definitely not in your best interest

 

Best part is the 85 soul stones

[Kari 308]

Nice, interesting to see the potential gains? from these boxes thank you for showing us

[DevilSkag 75]

I'd actually like to point out that your numbers are dead wrong though, 15b is an incredibly low estimate.

2x Torva Helm - 1.6b - 2b

1x Torva Platebody - 1b - 1.2b

1x Pernix Cowl - 800m - 1b

1x Pernix Body - 1b - 1.2b

1x Pernix Chaps - 1b - 1.2b

1x Virtus Mask - 800m - 1b

1x Virtus Robe Legs - 1b - 1.2b

3x Pegasian Crystal - 3b - 6b

1x Eternal Crystal - 500m - 1b

1x Primordial Crystal - 2b - 3b

5x Dragon Claws - 1b - 2b

2x Dragon Warhammer - 400m - 800m

268x Chance of prismatic gems - 4b - 8b *potential with all gems - at 75% 3b - 6b

590x Crystal Key - 1.8b - 2.4b

510x Dark Totem - 1b - 2b

1285x Armadyl Shard/ 12.85x Armadyl Battlestaff - 3b+

85 Void soulstone - something tells me people would pay at least 10m ea for these if they were tradeable - 850m

Taking the avg of ea item it comes to 29.7b excluding potions and bones or 29.7m per box = 4.7m profit per box

[easy mate 54]

On 2/2/2022 at 1:08 AM, DevilSkag said:

I'd actually like to point out that your numbers are dead wrong though, 15b is an incredibly low estimate.

2x Torva Helm - 1.6b - 2b

1x Torva Platebody - 1b - 1.2b

1x Pernix Cowl - 800m - 1b

1x Pernix Body - 1b - 1.2b

1x Pernix Chaps - 1b - 1.2b

1x Virtus Mask - 800m - 1b

1x Virtus Robe Legs - 1b - 1.2b

3x Pegasian Crystal - 3b - 6b

1x Eternal Crystal - 500m - 1b

1x Primordial Crystal - 2b - 3b

5x Dragon Claws - 1b - 2b

2x Dragon Warhammer - 400m - 800m

268x Chance of prismatic gems - 4b - 8b *potential with all gems - at 75% 3b - 6b

590x Crystal Key - 1.8b - 2.4b

510x Dark Totem - 1b - 2b

1285x Armadyl Shard/ 12.85x Armadyl Battlestaff - 3b+

85 Void soulstone - something tells me people would pay at least 10m ea for these if they were tradeable - 850m

Taking the avg of ea item it comes to 29.7b excluding potions and bones or 29.7m per box = 4.7m profit per box

 

these prices are high even if you wanna spend 3 months selling the items I don't think you'd ever finish selling 12 arma battle staffs, I sold/alched the items that were not worth selling and got about 17b lmao you've also included untradeable items in the price?? okay bro

lemme break down the prices I actually would have sold shit for (note I chanced all the nex items for fun but this was not a factor in my original price)

 

2x Torva Helm - 1.4b

1x Torva Platebody - 900m

1x Pernix Cowl - 700m

1x Pernix Body - 900m

1x Pernix Chaps - 800m

1x Virtus Mask - 700m 

1x Virtus Robe Legs - 800m

3x Pegasian Crystal - 3b 

1x Eternal Crystal - 750m

1x Primordial Crystal - 1.5b

5x Dragon Claws - 500m

2x Dragon Warhammer - 300m

180 (ish) gems were obtained without the nex items but ill include them - 3.6b 

590x Crystal Key - 1.5b

510x Dark Totem - 1.5b

1285x Armadyl Shard - 12 abs alched for 150m ea

85 Void soulstone - untradeable so why are we counting these apart from a weird attempt to be negative?? l0l

perhaps 15b was a bit low, but definitely more accurate than 29b? that's laughable, you'd be here until 2025 trying to sell it for that much

 

Edited February 2, 2022 by easy mate

[DevilSkag 75]

On 2/2/2022 at 4:19 AM, easy mate said:

 

these prices are high even if you wanna spend 3 months selling the items I don't think you'd ever finish selling 12 arma battle staffs, I sold/alched the items that were not worth selling and got about 17b lmao you've also included untradeable items in the price?? okay bro

lemme break down the prices I actually would have sold shit for (note I chanced all the nex items for fun but this was not a factor in my original price)

 

2x Torva Helm - 1.4b

1x Torva Platebody - 900m

1x Pernix Cowl - 700m

1x Pernix Body - 900m

1x Pernix Chaps - 800m

1x Virtus Mask - 700m 

1x Virtus Robe Legs - 800m

3x Pegasian Crystal - 3b 

1x Eternal Crystal - 750m

1x Primordial Crystal - 1.5b

5x Dragon Claws - 500m

2x Dragon Warhammer - 300m

180 (ish) gems were obtained without the nex items but ill include them - 3.6b 

590x Crystal Key - 1.5b

510x Dark Totem - 1.5b

1285x Armadyl Shard - 12 abs alched for 150m ea

85 Void soulstone - untradeable so why are we counting these apart from a weird attempt to be negative?? l0l

perhaps 15b was a bit low, but definitely more accurate than 29b? that's laughable, you'd be here until 2025 trying to sell it for that much

 

I don't understand, do you feel attacked here? I provided criticism and you clearly validate that your initial numbers are wrong. every Nex piece can be sold for the prices that I listed, I've done so very recently. You're "right" about the armadyl battlestaffs, but you could just as easily use them in the well of goodwill for their examine value instead of using cash. Dragon claws and Dragon Warhammers are worth every bit of 200-250m considering you can also convert them to gems. in 85 easy kills of Harb you're practically guaranteed to get a high value item, if anything 10m ea is a low estimate. Just because you can't SELL them doesn't mean they don't have VALUE.

 

Just because you might not know every efficient way to get every bit of value out of an item doesn't mean they're worth what you think they are. If 15b is your price to give all those items away I'd gladly take all of it for that and guaranteed I would almost double my money.

[easy mate 54]

On 2/3/2022 at 9:13 PM, DevilSkag said:

I don't understand, do you feel attacked here? I provided criticism and you clearly validate that your initial numbers are wrong. every Nex piece can be sold for the prices that I listed, I've done so very recently. You're "right" about the armadyl battlestaffs, but you could just as easily use them in the well of goodwill for their examine value instead of using cash. Dragon claws and Dragon Warhammers are worth every bit of 200-250m considering you can also convert them to gems. in 85 easy kills of Harb you're practically guaranteed to get a high value item, if anything 10m ea is a low estimate. Just because you can't SELL them doesn't mean they don't have VALUE.

 

Just because you might not know every efficient way to get every bit of value out of an item doesn't mean they're worth what you think they are. If 15b is your price to give all those items away I'd gladly take all of it for that and guaranteed I would almost double my money.

I mean since I "validated" your point I obviously don't feel attacked, I merely provided criticism on your point, its just interesting that you class untradable items with an alch value of 1k as a valuable item, remember that the void stone does not unlock the ability to kill harb but just means you don't have to do kc, and that you'd class giving away items as a way of making profit. feels like clutching at straws is all. You're more than welcome to open some boxes for yourself and make more money. I stand by the fact that my 15b total is a lot closer to the amount of money I made from this than your 29b estimate and that's all I have to say really

Edited February 3, 2022 by easy mate

[DevilSkag 75]

On 2/3/2022 at 3:42 PM, easy mate said:

I mean since I "validated" your point I obviously don't feel attacked, I merely provided criticism on your point, its just interesting that you class untradable items with an alch value of 1k as a valuable item, remember that the void stone does not unlock the ability to kill harb but just means you don't have to do kc, and that you'd class giving away items as a way of making profit. feels like clutching at straws is all. You're more than welcome to open some boxes for yourself and make more money. I stand by the fact that my 15b total is a lot closer to the amount of money I made from this than your 29b estimate and that's all I have to say really

My comment wasn't intended to provoke, only to provide an alternative perspective. Your response came off as guarded to me, but maybe that wasn't the case. The only thing I'd possibly change is not saying "your numbers are dead wrong" because to you they weren't, which is fine. The reason I give a value to the void stones is because the main nuisance with Harb is the kc, in my opinion. Therefore, they'd be incredibly valuable to someone who wanted to farm him. Given that his drop rate for rares is 6:471 or 1:78.5 (that doesn't take into account our drop rate increase either). Guardian pieces 2b ea x 3 + Grae bow 6b + Eternal Staff 2b + void dye 2b = 16b / 6 = 2.6b avg. Divide that by your chance to get a drop per stone and it comes to 34m ea. That probably wouldn't be the number people would pay, but I'd say around 10-20m. Not being able to buy them doesn't mean they don't hold that value though is all I'm saying there. I don't consider 3 x tier 3 wells as giving away items because if you use it then you also benefit from it, it's just not directly in cash. I'd agree in the case that you're only buying the boxes to flip the contents that they're only worth what cash you can get from them. There's a lot of nuance involved here, I think.

[Iso 47]

listen up you dumb stupid idiots because i'm only gonna say this once. i didn't read a word of what you guys said but all i know is i've had 3 panic attacks trying to read all the numbers posted here. if you think doing math on a rsps is cool then clearly you've never met my 2 time ping pong state champion grandfather. i could teach my dog how to open pvm boxes better than you, and he has type c and simplex 2 diabetes. not to brag or anything but i don't remember anything before 6th grade. people have found jesus in a burger king drive thru and still can't download windows 8. touchdown lakers

[Jake 141]

 

On 2/4/2022 at 11:08 AM, Iso said:

listen up you dumb stupid idiots because i'm only gonna say this once. i didn't read a word of what you guys said but all i know is i've had 3 panic attacks trying to read all the numbers posted here. if you think doing math on a rsps is cool then clearly you've never met my 2 time ping pong state champion grandfather. i could teach my dog how to open pvm boxes better than you, and he has type c and simplex 2 diabetes. not to brag or anything but i don't remember anything before 6th grade. people have found jesus in a burger king drive thru and still can't download windows 8. touchdown lakers

 

deleted what i originally said cus iso got butthurt about his nan

 

Edited February 4, 2022 by Jake

[easy mate 54]

On 2/3/2022 at 11:56 PM, DevilSkag said:

My comment wasn't intended to provoke, only to provide an alternative perspective. Your response came off as guarded to me, but maybe that wasn't the case. The only thing I'd possibly change is not saying "your numbers are dead wrong" because to you they weren't, which is fine. The reason I give a value to the void stones is because the main nuisance with Harb is the kc, in my opinion. Therefore, they'd be incredibly valuable to someone who wanted to farm him. Given that his drop rate for rares is 6:471 or 1:78.5 (that doesn't take into account our drop rate increase either). Guardian pieces 2b ea x 3 + Grae bow 6b + Eternal Staff 2b + void dye 2b = 16b / 6 = 2.6b avg. Divide that by your chance to get a drop per stone and it comes to 34m ea. That probably wouldn't be the number people would pay, but I'd say around 10-20m. Not being able to buy them doesn't mean they don't hold that value though is all I'm saying there. I don't consider 3 x tier 3 wells as giving away items because if you use it then you also benefit from it, it's just not directly in cash. I'd agree in the case that you're only buying the boxes to flip the contents that they're only worth what cash you can get from them. There's a lot of nuance involved here, I think.

apologies that my comment came across as guarded, I genuinely wrote it in jest, as well as wanting to explain how I got to my total, we obviously looked at the items that were received with different values, I only reported what I made and didn't scrutinise the items as in depth as you did, we also have two different ethos' when it comes to selling items lol I would rather sell cheap and quick where as it seems you are more patient when selling items