GIM Opoxi 31 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Hey all, As things currently are, Iron's do not gain any benefit from Well of Goodwill/Events/SoF. Now, there used to be an uproar about this subject which went like "No tO EzsCapE". But as we now have a lot of new players (Quite a few playing IM/HCIM/UIM), Have your say on the matter. Should Irons have access to these benefits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smatris 2 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 I would say only to SOF considering we can get the sof tickets from clues. BUT it must be altered to not give any huge advantage as of now. And i would vote no for Well but there is no opinion. Allthough event rewards should also be altered for ironmen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIM Opoxi 31 Posted August 2, 2021 Author Share Posted August 2, 2021 On 8/2/2021 at 6:46 PM, Smatris said: I would say only to SOF considering we can get the sof tickets from clues. BUT it must be altered to not give any huge advantage as of now. And i would vote no for Well but there is no opinion. Allthough event rewards should also be altered for ironmen Added the option! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fm das 114 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 As a decently old player, and an iron myself. I feel as though there are little to no items in the SoF that are "op". Lucky items? sorta useless, aside from spirit shields, those can 100% be removed. But little things like skilling items and other insignificant low tier combat items aren't game breaking in the slightest. You can actually obtain spins from completing hard clues as an iron, and they're basically useless. Large support for this as well as the Well of Goodwill. The well isn't popping every hour. It's generally 1-4 times per day depending on the player count. I can see how this can be abused though, however I think reducing the exp ratios for irons would be a must, that way people can't boost their irons via well 24/7. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boats 254 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) No support from me. We changed iron modes to make it more difficult. I personally would not even call this qol. This is additional things to make it easier. I could be okay with sof, but don’t think it’s needed. I am definitely not okay with well or drop rate buffs. Edited August 2, 2021 by Boats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilSkag 75 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 On 8/2/2021 at 2:38 PM, Boats said: No support from me. We changed iron modes to make it more difficult. I personally would not even call this qol. This is additional things to make it easier. I could be okay with sof, but don’t think it’s needed. I am definitely not okay with well or drop rate buffs. Yes, definitely no support for well. Events would be ok if the only thing that could be received was the cosmetic mystery boxes. SOF is probably fine if the lucky ss are removed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Kari 308 Posted August 2, 2021 Administrators Share Posted August 2, 2021 As Boats has already mentioned, we changed the iron man mode a while back because it was too easy. We decided to not include well, sof and event boosts in these new iron man modes, and if I remember correctly, the majority of the player base agreed with that. Now I see a lot of you mentioning the sof, while I agree that there is not much harm in letting irons have access to that, mainly because the rewards are ass, I don't support that. A while ago I suggested revamping the sof system and I know, it hasn't been done yet but I'd like to believe we'll eventually get to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum 134 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 No support to any of them, ironman accounts were made independent for a reason and I see no benefits to changing things back to the way they were apart from making a few lazy people happy. Ironmen know what they're signing up for when they choose the mode, if they want the well and SoF then they can quite easily go back to easyscape. Regarding the SoF, the only way I would support this is with a full overhaul where any items obtained are solely cosmetic. I don't support the addition of Lamps, Lucky Items, Supplies or anything else that could make the game even the slightest bit easier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splash 203 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Agreed with Callum here, To expand, we've had the idea to completely rework the SoF table for a while with two seperate tables for ironmen & mains. We do not want irons using the SoF to circumvent grinds such as dragon boots, but still need the system to feel rewarding without oversaturating the game with skilling supplies. As for XP boost & Events, I Firmly believe irons shouldn't be entitled to these benefits. The entire reason of the ironman revamp was to level the playing field and remove any edges gained from external sources (I.e voting, opening boxes etc) Hence the very limited donator perks you now recieve, limited to QoL benefits. That being said, Irons do not recieve as much from voting as they should so if you have any suggestions on how to better reward those players i'd love to hear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...