Kyle 63 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) Name: Kyle Rules Broken (if any): None Time Punished: Over a week ago Punishment Length & Type: IP mute; permanent Staff Member who issued the punishment: Lation Redeem yourself, explain the entirety of the situation: I was in the Discord when Lation posted a reminder that a new item had been added to the donor shop (or so I believe, I can't check anymore). I simply asked, "are we ever gonna get another non-donator update". I was then flamed, kicked from the Discord server, and muted in-game. Keep in mind that I broke no rules, said nothing related to this in game, and didn't personally attack a player or staff member. After reading through the rules I can confidently say that this punishment was unjust, the situation was undeserving of a mute, and for once in my life, I literally did nothing wrong, unless you count voicing a concern I have by asking a question. Why should you be Unmuted/Banned?: This kind of treatment to the playerbase is unprofessional, and not something I would expect from the staff, especially from the owner. I'm posting this here because I shouldn't have to ask to be unmuted for doing nothing wrong, and I shouldn't have to beg the staff member who issued it to reinstate my communication rights. I understand that if I had been flaming or mocking, or insulting the staff about the update, I should've been muted, but that wasn't the case. I don't want an apology, and I don't mind staying muted, but I wanted to post this because I feel that I've been treated extremely unfairly due to an outburst of anger from a staff member. I have attempted to make this post as unbiased as possible, and to just present the facts. I know this will be taken down eventually, but I'm putting it here in the hopes that it can serve as an example of how players should NOT be treated. Thanks for reading. Pictures/Videos: Unable to provide screenshots, as I was immediately kicked from the Discord server after asking about non-donor updates. Edited November 8, 2019 by Kyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Lation 942 Posted November 8, 2019 Owner Share Posted November 8, 2019 Here we are again, Kyle & for anyone that doesn't want to read all the words I'm about to type the result of this appeal is denied - so there you go. Now to the beloved player; Kyle. Where do I begin? Shall we take a step back in time and begin at the very beginning of your time on Ely? Na, let's start with the inconsistencies in your appeal which played a factor in the reason your appeal is denied - and I'll explain that more in depth shortly. You insinuate after you asked "are we ever gonna get a non-donator update" that you were instantly flamed, kicked from the server & muted in-game immediately; at least that's how it reads. Let's go back here and state FACTS, something of which you claim to be stating but are yet again, shocking: lying. So after your cute statement in the Discord you failed to mention the part where I directly replied to you - and very in-depth indeed. I even provided you with a screenshot of our past SIX (6), that is greater than 5 but less than 7, of our last updates to the game. Not one of those examples listed, which went back nearly two+ months were "donator exclusive" updates; nor can I even find such an update in the list & I only provided you with the last 6. After a little more conversation ensued between us you went on to gripe that the only updates the game gets are a "new box every week" - which I then clearly pointed out to you is in fact only one mystery box we been selling for about 9 months or so now. Which I'll gladly explain again to you here: what our Exclusive Mystery boxes are is one single box, that gets re-made and refreshed every single month to provide new and refreshing items to the game, with a much better chance at rare items than our regular Mystery box selections. These are not new boxes week to week or month to month. They are simply the same box, with new items. Here's why you got a notification every week about what you thought was "a new box every week" - these boxes are in limited supply. Which means we only release an X amount of boxes to sell per month; which is 600. Instead of making all these available at the start of the month we break it down into 4 "drops" per month - once at the start of every week in a quantity of 150. So as it would go - I would post in the "#announcements" channel (which is strictly for.. you guessed it - announcements!) every week a few hours prior to these box "drops." After this conversation you backtracked in Discord and said you only said when are we ever going to get an update. I then at this point was fed up with you and your lying / backtracking of your statements. At the time of that writing - when you asked that question, the last update was only two weeks prior. So what were you complaining about? Only God knows, Kyle.. none of us ever understand what your going on about. After the backtracking and nonsensical chit chat going on in the Discord general chat - I then kicked you from the Discord; keep in mind a "kick" is not a "ban" - two different things. Now let's move on to the next part, shall we? You mentioned in your appeal "I was then flamed, kicked from the Discord server, and muted in-game. Keep in mind that I broke no rules, said nothing related to this in game..." Here we are back at square one in which you are blatantly lying. You explicitly logged in-game after that and began ranting about the same exact issue in the public chat ingame now and then proceeded to flame me for kicking you from the Discord. Here we basically repeated ourselves again in nearly the same manner of our conversation on Discord - after just getting sick of your nonsense - I muted you. A fail-safe. You can continue to play the game you some days claim you love, and others claim is completely shit and not going anywhere - minus the nonsense that comes from your keyboard on a daily basis. Something I viewed as a win-win. So let's move to the next part of your appeal.. You state: "After reading through the rules I can confidently say that this punishment was unjust, the situation was undeserving of a mute, and for once in my life, I literally did nothing wrong, unless you count voicing a concern I have by asking a question." Let's clear something up here.. you claim you read through the rules. If you actually read the thread in its entirety than I'd assume you would have saw the part at the very top that explicitly states the following: "Staff members reserve the right to punish players for rule breaking as they see fit." Let's dig into this further. Am I a Staff member? Hell - I'm an Owner; I believe that counts as Staff. Therefore means I reserve the right to punish players for rule breaking as I see fit. So, I saw it fit that you deserved a mute. You therefore have the right to appeal that; which I have simply denied. Just because the rules don't state a mighty specific "If a player is using general chats to spread falsehoods & lies about the server & it's owner, they can be muted or banned" doesn't mean I can't do that. Let's also keep in mind this is a private server owned, run & managed by just a few individuals. We are not owned by a third-party corporation, a company, or separate entity in which we answer too. I just like to keep the peace, and when your not speaking - the server seems to be at peace. Interesting. Let's move on. Your very first reason for saying you should be un-muted is: "This kind of treatment to the playerbase is unprofessional, and not something I would expect from the staff, especially from the owner." Might I refer to the statement right above this one in which we are not owned or managed by a third party corporation, company or separate entity. Therefore our "professionalism" is entirely up to us, myself, or other owners. I would also like to refer back to the part in which I mentioned "this is a private server owned, run & managed by just a few individuals." That should answer that part.. The most hilarious part yet? Let's have us a look.. Remember some way back in this story I mentioned the part about you being a liar? We are gonna revisit that here. Your very next statement is as follows: "I'm posting this here because I shouldn't have to ask to be unmuted for doing nothing wrong, and I shouldn't have to beg the staff member who issued it to reinstate my communication rights." Let's focus on the part I took the time to enlarge & embolden. I'd like to mentioned.. when.. where.. how.. did you ever even attempt to contact me once since this mute? Let me state for the record - never. The very last time you contacted me on any platform whatsoever was on Discord on October 24th & it was about a Runecrafting Pet; Abby. I did not receive any communication from you since then until today when you sent me the link to this very appeal. So again I ask, when did you beg to have your communication reinstated? To who? Where? You know where to contact me when you need too. My Discord private messages are not restricted to server's I share with people, they are open and have been since I joined Discord in 2017. Can we quit the lying? Last but not least.. A meme: "I don't want an apology, and I don't mind staying muted, but I wanted to post this because I feel that I've been treated extremely unfairly due to an outburst of anger from a staff member. I have attempted to make this post as unbiased as possible, and to just present the facts. I know this will be taken down eventually, but I'm putting it here in the hopes that it can serve as an example of how players should NOT be treated. Thanks for reading." I will not spend time on each part of this I will just say - I'm glad you don't expect an apology because you will not find one. Also glad to hear you don't mind staying muted because you will be (until possibly one day out of the kindness of my heart I decide to lift). Also you made this post just to present the facts? Do you know fact usually mean they are not lies? Also - none of our appeals are taken down; just moved to their respective sections. Have a good day, Kyle.. until we meet again. 4 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...