Oncology 19 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Username: Oncology Suggestion: Allow the Iron community to purchase mystery boxes Why (how will it benefit players overall): Currently the ironman community is restricted with buying the mystery boxes. However, a few months ago due to an error on one of the developers part mystery boxes could be donated for. As the donation store sits right now there's not a whole lot of things worth it for irons to get. There's armour and weapons but the mystery boxes are fun and give the chance of something nice or one of those awesome tattoos. Incorporating the mystery boxes to the iron community might increase donations (at least in my case it will since a majority of my donations are for super mystery boxes). With the addition of the "summer" shop all of the elite stuff is available to the iron community already so why not give us access to the mystery boxes as well? Just as an example, today I donated $25 for 250 points with the intention to buy 5 June boxes as I didn't know the change had been made that Irons were no longer allowed to purchase mystery boxes. After finding out I could no longer buy the mystery boxes I went to the summer store and purchase the second BIS amulet that one can get. So what's the difference between the monthly mystery boxes/the super mystery boxes and the summer shop besides cosmetics? We can't trade the items so the only benefit we get is the ability to use something that might have been out of reach for us before. Since we can't trade the items it doesn't exactly devalue them either. But I'm curious, what are everyones thoughts on this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonofares Pk 69 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Being an ironman means that you're supposed to get everything yourself the hard way, yes you can get regular mystery boxes but those aren't op in rewards and ruin the integrity of the game mode as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oncology 19 Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, Sonofares Pk said: Being an ironman means that you're supposed to get everything yourself the hard way, yes you can get regular mystery boxes but those aren't op in rewards and ruin the integrity of the game mode as much. If the individual user wants to "ruin" the game mode for themselves, why not let them do it? There's not a huge difference between super mystery boxes and the ability to buy stuff from the summer shop except the summer shop is guaranteed to give you top tier items instead of the chance at a tattoo vs a white partyhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boats 254 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 I don’t think either should be an option. What’s the point of Ironman if u can spend money to get top tier gear lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonofares Pk 69 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Boats said: I don’t think either should be an option. What’s the point of Ironman if u can spend money to get top tier gear lmao Agreed, they should make the summer shop unavail to ironmen, too overpowered If you wanna just buy the best gear then make a regular acc, ez Edited June 21, 2019 by Sonofares Pk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan 159 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 I believe all sort of buyables for iron men shouldn't be allowed/available since its an iron man, just defeats the point of them tbh. smbs are way too overpowered for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum 134 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 I'd have to not support this. As previously stated the purpose of the Ironman modes are to be self-sufficient. It would become a P2W scenario and never sit well with the Iron community. You would annoy a lot of people who not only spent hours to gain a specific item, but also put their status at risk when they could have given the game money. The only way I would consider supporting this would be for the items to be purely cosmetic that can't be obtained by other means yet restricted to zero stat/effect bonuses, any form of combat equipment and its a definite no from me. 3 hours ago, Oncology said: If the individual user wants to "ruin" the game mode for themselves, why not let them do it? There's not a huge difference between super mystery boxes and the ability to buy stuff from the summer shop except the summer shop is guaranteed to give you top tier items instead of the chance at a tattoo vs a white partyhat. Again as stated, even if you ruin the game mode for yourself, you de-value the achievements of those playing legitimately. If you want to donate for items then do it on a regular account where people don't mind a P2W environment. Ironmen should not have the ability to donate for any form of item that would give them an advantage over others playing the mode. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Luke 134 Posted June 22, 2019 Developer Share Posted June 22, 2019 Summer shop was rushed to release as we didn't realise summer had crept up so soon.. it feels like autumn in the UK still! It wasn't intended for Ironmen to have access, I'd rather just prevent future ironmen from accessing it altogether. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splash 203 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 I don't agree with this at all. Having even a chance at good items goes against the spirit of the iron-man gamemode. Grinds like dragon boots, Black mask, and other items that would be considered cheap / lower tier items to everyone else, can take away the sense of accomplishment from playing the game and finally getting that drop you've forever wanted. If we were to limit how good the boxes are, and what they drop, Then they would exclusively cater towards this game-mode, and likely wouldn't appeal to regular players. However, Perhaps a more limited Iron-man only donator store is possible, much like how we did the regular shops vs ironman shops (Removing stuff like amulet of fury etc). We could then add boxes with cool items such as cosmetics, or other new items (Stuff like 2x PVM Point tickets) that don't take away from the game-modes unique progression system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oncology 19 Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Splash said: I don't agree with this at all. Having even a chance at good items goes against the spirit of the iron-man gamemode. Grinds like dragon boots, Black mask, and other items that would be considered cheap / lower tier items to everyone else, can take away the sense of accomplishment from playing the game and finally getting that drop you've forever wanted. If we were to limit how good the boxes are, and what they drop, Then they would exclusively cater towards this game-mode, and likely wouldn't appeal to regular players. However, Perhaps a more limited Iron-man only donator store is possible, much like how we did the regular shops vs ironman shops (Removing stuff like amulet of fury etc). We could then add boxes with cool items such as cosmetics, or other new items (Stuff like 2x PVM Point tickets) that don't take away from the game-modes unique progression system. I do like that idea. I like the idea of cosmetic items that we could have a chance at getting. I also like the idea of 2x pvm point tickets for x amount of time and other bonuses that enhance game play but aren't as overpowered as a chance at a primal maul. I just would like to see something for the iron community. I prefer the iron modes but I also like to support the server. I see very little incentive to create a non iron account to donate for things I won't ever use outside of supporting the server it does me no good. Maybe something like this should be polled? I would like to see something implemented for the iron community and maybe I should have put more thought and time into the post as I don't really think we should be given the chance at high tier items like the primal maul but I think things like a party hat or other cosmetic items are something that should be made available to irons along with other slew of game enhancing but not game breaking items like the 2x pvm point ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
